{"id":5022,"date":"2025-10-28T12:37:52","date_gmt":"2025-10-28T12:37:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/?p=5022"},"modified":"2025-10-29T12:45:24","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T12:45:24","slug":"automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/","title":{"rendered":"Automattic\u2019s SEO Argument Feels Stuck in the Past"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>Automattic\u2019s new counterclaim against WP Engine argues that repeating the word \u201cWordPress\u201d can trick Google into better rankings. SEO experts say that idea hasn\u2019t been true for a long time, and the evidence Automattic provided may be more confusing than convincing.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/ChatGPT-Image-Oct-28-2025-06_05_35-PM.png\" alt=\"Automattic\u2019s SEO Argument Feels Stuck in the Past\" width=\"1536\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/ChatGPT-Image-Oct-28-2025-06_05_35-PM.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/ChatGPT-Image-Oct-28-2025-06_05_35-PM-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/ChatGPT-Image-Oct-28-2025-06_05_35-PM-1024x683.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1536px) 100vw, 1536px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic, the company behind WordPress.com, has taken its fight with WP Engine into surprising territory: search engine optimization.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/automattic.com\/2025\/10\/24\/counterclaims\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">counterclaim<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> filed recently, Automattic accused WP Engine of deliberately using \u201cWordPress\u201d and \u201cWooCommerce\u201d too many times on its website, a move it says was meant to boost WP Engine\u2019s visibility in Google search results and confuse users about who\u2019s official and who\u2019s not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to the filing, WP Engine began increasing its use of the \u201cWordPress\u201d mark around 2021 and did the same for \u201cWooCommerce\u201d a year later.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic called the move an \u201caggressive SEO strategy\u201d meant to capture traffic from people looking for genuine WordPress providers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If that sounds like a throwback to the early 2000s, that\u2019s because it kind of is.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-transparent ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\"><\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#does-keyword-repetition-still-matter\" >Does Keyword Repetition Still Matter?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#the-chart-that-doesnt-tell-the-full-story\" >The Chart That Doesn\u2019t Tell the Full Story<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#a-fairer-comparison-paints-a-new-picture\" >A Fairer Comparison Paints a New Picture<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#more-competitors-same-result\" >More Competitors, Same Result<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#the-real-issue-behind-the-seo-argument\" >The Real Issue Behind the SEO Argument<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#why-this-matters-beyond-the-courtroom\" >Why This Matters Beyond the Courtroom<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#what-businesses-can-learn-from-this\" >What Businesses Can Learn from This<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/automattics-seo-argument-feels-stuck-in-the-past-5022\/#the-bottom-line\" >The Bottom Line<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"does-keyword-repetition-still-matter\"><\/span><b>Does Keyword Repetition Still Matter?<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic\u2019s legal claim rests on an old belief that search engines give preference to pages where certain words appear often. But SEO professionals say that\u2019s outdated, and Google\u2019s own public <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/intl\/en_us\/search\/howsearchworks\/how-search-works\/ranking-results\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">explanations<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> back them up.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Modern search algorithms analyze intent and meaning rather than simply counting words. Google\u2019s AI models are built to understand context. That\u2019s why pages can rank for a phrase even if they don\u2019t use those exact words.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In fact, if you search for \u201cManaged WordPress Hosting,\u201d WordPress.com ranks second in the results, even though that phrase doesn\u2019t appear on the page. That alone undercuts the idea that frequency drives ranking.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So when Automattic\u2019s counterclaim says that WP Engine\u2019s repeated use of \u201cWordPress\u201d tricks search engines, the argument clashes directly with how Google says its system works.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-chart-that-doesnt-tell-the-full-story\"><\/span><b>The Chart That Doesn\u2019t Tell the Full Story<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic tried to back up its argument with data, specifically a graph comparing how often WP Engine and 18 other hosting companies mention \u201cWordPress\u201d on their websites.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5023\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/graph-comparison-1-943-1.webp\" alt=\"Graph shared by Automattic\" width=\"600\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/graph-comparison-1-943-1.webp 600w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/graph-comparison-1-943-1-300x85.webp 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At first glance, it looks concerning: WP Engine\u2019s usage spikes far above everyone else\u2019s. But there\u2019s a major problem with that comparison.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Most of the companies, Automattic included, aren\u2019t actually competitors in managed WordPress hosting.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">14 of the 19 offer a mix of unrelated services like domain registration, VPS, or dedicated servers. Naturally, they mention \u201cWordPress\u201d less often because it\u2019s just one part of their business.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Two examples stand out. Namecheap and GoDaddy, both of which are primarily domain name registrars. Comparing their \u201cWordPress\u201d mentions to WP Engine\u2019s is apples to oranges.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic also included Elementor and WPMU Dev, which aren\u2019t hosting companies at all; they\u2019re plugin platforms. That further tilts the comparison.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you remove the outliers and look at real competitors, the story changes.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"a-fairer-comparison-paints-a-new-picture\"><\/span><b>A Fairer Comparison Paints a New Picture<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you compare actual managed WordPress hosting companies, WP Engine doesn\u2019t stand out nearly as much as Automattic\u2019s chart suggests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here\u2019s what a more even match looks like, based on how often each company\u2019s top \u201cManaged WordPress Hosting\u201d page uses the word \u201cWordPress\u201d:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Rocket.net:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> 21 times<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>WP Engine:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> 27 times<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Kinsta:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> 55 times<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">WP Engine sits right in the middle. Not the lowest, not the highest. And that\u2019s not counting WordPress.com\u2019s own hosting page, which uses the word 62 times, more than double WP Engine\u2019s count.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If repetition truly manipulated Google\u2019s algorithm, Automattic\u2019s own site would be an even bigger offender.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"more-competitors-same-result\"><\/span><b>More Competitors, Same Result<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To see if the pattern held up, a few more managed WordPress hosts were added to the mix: WPX Hosting, Flywheel, InstaWP, Pressable, and Pagely.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The range ran from 9 to 28 mentions. Again, WP Engine\u2019s 27 was right near the upper middle, nowhere near the excessive repetition Automattic described.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Even when compared with general hosting companies (the kind Automattic included in its graph), WP Engine\u2019s count looks modest. InMotion Hosting, for instance, uses \u201cWordPress\u201d 101 times on its top page. GreenGeeks clocks in at 97.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In comparison, WP Engine\u2019s 27 looks restrained.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The irony is that WordPress.com\u2019s own page tops many of them, with 62 uses of the term.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-real-issue-behind-the-seo-argument\"><\/span><b>The Real Issue Behind the SEO Argument<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s worth noting that the heart of Automattic\u2019s lawsuit isn\u2019t just about SEO; it\u2019s about trademark control.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The company argues that WP Engine\u2019s use of the \u201cWordPress\u201d and \u201cWooCommerce\u201d names causes brand confusion, leading people to believe WP Engine is officially connected to Automattic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But by leaning so heavily on flawed SEO reasoning, Automattic may have weakened its own position. The argument depends on a claim that simply doesn\u2019t reflect how search works anymore.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To anyone familiar with search ranking, the claim that Google still counts keyword frequency sounds frozen in time.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The algorithms have moved far beyond that. They use language models to interpret meaning and match intent, not to reward word repetition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If anything, keyword stuffing now hurts more than it helps.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"why-this-matters-beyond-the-courtroom\"><\/span><b>Why This Matters Beyond the Courtroom<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic\u2019s legal claim could have ripple effects across the hosting and WordPress ecosystem. Thousands of businesses depend on the open-source software but operate independently from Automattic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If a court accepts the logic behind this claim that using \u201cWordPress\u201d too often could imply bad faith, it could limit how companies describe their own products and services.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand, if the case highlights the outdated SEO assumptions driving Automattic\u2019s argument, it might nudge more businesses to question old myths about how Google works.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Either way, the dispute shines a light on a surprising fact: even major tech companies can misunderstand the very systems that power their online presence.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"what-businesses-can-learn-from-this\"><\/span><b>What Businesses Can Learn from This<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/judge-leans-toward-wp-engine-in-wordpress-dispute-but-seeks-clarity-1332\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">back-and-forth between Automattic and WP Engine<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is a reminder of how easy it is for companies to hold on to outdated marketing ideas long after the rules have changed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here are a few lessons worth keeping in mind:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Don\u2019t chase myths.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> More keywords don\u2019t mean better rankings. Google understands intent, not repetition.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Be transparent.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> If you reference a brand name like WordPress, make sure it\u2019s clear how you\u2019re affiliated or not.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Focus on relevance.<\/b> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/seo-podcast\/content-google-loves\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">High-quality, well-organized content<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> always outperforms keyword-heavy fluff.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Check your facts.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Even large companies can base decisions on outdated ideas. Keep your SEO knowledge current.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Avoid overreacting.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Using a brand name fairly and descriptively is often fine unless it\u2019s used in a way that misleads customers.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-bottom-line\"><\/span><b>The Bottom Line<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automattic\u2019s claim that WP Engine gamed Google by repeating \u201cWordPress\u201d might grab headlines, but it\u2019s built on shaky ground. Modern SEO doesn\u2019t work that way, and Automattic\u2019s own website disproves its argument.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If this part of the lawsuit holds any weight, it won\u2019t be because of SEO science; it\u2019ll be because of trademark law.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, the case has sparked an intriguing discussion: even in 2025, some of the largest online brands continue to grapple with issues from the early days of search.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Automattic\u2019s new counterclaim against WP Engine argues that repeating the word \u201cWordPress\u201d can trick Google into better rankings. SEO experts say that idea hasn\u2019t been true for a long time, and the evidence Automattic provided may be more confusing than convincing. 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