{"id":5714,"date":"2025-11-11T13:05:15","date_gmt":"2025-11-11T13:05:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/?p=5714"},"modified":"2025-12-22T10:56:32","modified_gmt":"2025-12-22T10:56:32","slug":"seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/","title":{"rendered":"SEO Still Powers the Age of AI Search, Says Lily Ray"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>At MozCon 2025, SEO strategist Lily Ray unpacked the frenzy around \u201cGEO,\u201d \u201cAEO,\u201d and \u201cLLMO,\u201d reminding marketers that despite the flood of new AI terms, real success still depends on timeless SEO fundamentals, that is, quality, clarity, and credibility.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5715\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170529-300x165.png\" alt=\"SEO Still Powers the Age of AI Search, Says Lily Ray\" width=\"300\" height=\"165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170529-300x165.png 300w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170529-1024x563.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170529.png 1302w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Artificial intelligence has become the centerpiece of modern search. Features like Google\u2019s <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/how-ai-overviews-ai-featured-snippets-are-transforming-search-results-1796\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI Overviews<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and platforms like ChatGPT are changing how people discover information. In response, new acronyms have emerged: GEO (Generative Engine Optimization), AEO (Answer Engine Optimization), and LLMO (Large Language Model Optimization), each suggesting a new way to \u201coptimize\u201d for the future.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lily-ray-44755615\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lily Ray<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Vice President of SEO Strategy and Research at AMSIVE, offered a reality check.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Speaking at MozCon 2025, she explained that these buzzwords <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/is-seo-really-dying-googles-podcast-sparks-big-questions-1611\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">don\u2019t mark the end of SEO<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> but an extension of it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to Ray, AI may be changing how people discover information, but it still relies on the same web ecosystem that drives traditional search. The technology has evolved, yet the fundamentals of visibility remain just as vital.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2nJkT8zOzcM&amp;t=1s\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2nJkT8zOzcM?si=J4S064bbuMdEAFTe\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_82_2 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-transparent ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\"><\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/#the-story-that-brought-it-home\" >The Story That Brought It Home<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/#the-facts-ai-still-relies-on-search\" >The Facts: AI Still Relies on Search<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/#how-optimization-is-evolving\" >How Optimization Is Evolving<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/#action-points-for-seo-teams\" >Action Points for SEO Teams<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/seo-still-powers-the-age-of-ai-search-says-lily-ray-5714\/#the-bottom-line\" >The Bottom Line<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-story-that-brought-it-home\"><\/span><b>The Story That Brought It Home<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To drive the point home, Ray introduced an unexpected character, a golden alligator named GEO. In her story, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/ai-seo-services\/\">AI SEO (GEO)<\/a> represents the new generation of AI-driven search. He\u2019s born into a family of older alligators, each one representing an earlier \u201cSEO revolution\u201d: mobile-first indexing, voice search, AMP, and Core Web Vitals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Each time a new \u201cchild\u201d was born, the SEO industry panicked. Predictions about \u201cthe death of SEO\u201d flooded social media and conference stages. Yet, every time, SEO has evolved and remained central to digital visibility.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">GEO, she explained, is just the latest addition to that family. The ecosystem looks different, but it still runs on the same nutrients, which include high-quality information, clear structure, and trust.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was an effective metaphor. It reminded everyone that the industry has been here before, overwhelmed by change, yet still anchored by the same fundamentals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5716\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170126-300x160.png\" alt=\"Debunking GEO Myths\" width=\"300\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170126-300x160.png 300w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170126-1024x545.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-170126.png 1862w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-facts-ai-still-relies-on-search\"><\/span><b>The Facts: AI Still Relies on Search<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ray cited current data showing that Google search remains the dominant traffic source.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5717\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-165813-300x120.png\" alt=\"AI Still Relies on Search\" width=\"300\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-165813-300x120.png 300w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-165813-1024x411.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-11-165813.png 1798w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity have grown rapidly, most AI responses are grounded in indexed content pulled from search APIs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That means visibility in AI results depends directly on SEO strength.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In many LLM-generated answers, the cited URLs are the same pages ranking organically on Google.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She also noted that LLM traffic, while attention-grabbing, is still a fraction of total organic visits for most websites.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In fact, AI-driven discovery often leads users <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">back<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to search engines to verify results, reinforcing Google\u2019s central role.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"how-optimization-is-evolving\"><\/span>How Optimization Is Evolving<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Although the fundamentals remain, Ray emphasized that the way content is read by AI systems differs from traditional search engines.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Instead of scanning full pages, large language models identify smaller, self-contained units of meaning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This change places greater importance on structure. Clear headings, concise explanations, and logical formatting help both search engines and AI models understand and cite information correctly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She also noted that AI tools frequently reference content from trusted public sources such as Wikipedia, Reddit, and YouTube.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brands that contribute valuable, verifiable information to these platforms can improve their chances of being recognized by AI-powered systems.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"action-points-for-seo-teams\"><\/span><b>Action Points for SEO Teams<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ray urged SEO teams to adjust metrics and monitor visibility across both search and AI platforms.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Her advice included:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Keep SEO fundamentals strong.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Focus on clarity, quality, and credibility.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Structure content effectively.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Use subheadings and concise sections that can be easily cited.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Measure AI-driven visibility.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Track mentions and traffic from AI tools as a separate metric.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Update content meaningfully.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Refresh only when information changes, not for timestamps.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Participate authentically.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Build authority in online spaces that AI systems reference.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many agencies offering <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stanventures.com\/ai-seo-services\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI SEO services<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> are already applying these principles. They rely on data-driven insights, strong content structure, and genuine brand storytelling to stay visible across both search results and AI-generated platforms.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the-bottom-line\"><\/span><b>The Bottom Line<\/b><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lily Ray\u2019s message at MozCon 2025 is that SEO is maturing. The tools may evolve, and the acronyms may multiply, but the foundation of online visibility remains the same.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI systems don\u2019t replace search; they reflect it. And the content that earns attention in this new era will still come from the same place it always has\u2014clear, credible information created for people first.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At MozCon 2025, SEO strategist Lily Ray unpacked the frenzy around \u201cGEO,\u201d \u201cAEO,\u201d and \u201cLLMO,\u201d reminding marketers that despite the flood of new AI terms, real success still depends on timeless SEO fundamentals, that is, quality, clarity, and credibility. Artificial intelligence has become the centerpiece of modern search. 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