AI search doesn’t rank websites the way Google used to.
So how does it actually decide which brands deserve visibility?
In this episode of SEO On Air, agency leaders unpack how AI-powered search engines evaluate brand authority, trust, reviews, citations, and real-world credibility—and why rankings alone no longer tell the full story.
If you’re still optimizing only for keywords and links, this conversation may completely change how you approach SEO in 2025.
🎙️ Featuring agency leaders:
Kerry Sherin – Firebrand Studio Co
Chris Westmeyer – Digital Strike
Christine Brinkley – HeiPro Digital
Julia Wang – Firebrand Studio Co
This episode breaks down:
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 – How AI search really evaluates brand authority
01:45 – Introducing the guests & agency backgrounds
04:10 – Why most AI visibility tools fail in real-world use
07:00 – Testing AI tools internally before selling to clients
10:20 – The blind spot in AI referral traffic (ChatGPT, Perplexity)
13:00 – SEO vs AEO vs GEO: why the difference barely matters
15:30 – Why “good content” is still the foundation of AI search
18:10 – Structuring content for AI answers + traditional SEO
20:30 – Brand mentions, citations, and backlinks as AI fuel
23:00 – Why reviews matter more now than ever
25:30 – Authenticity vs AI-generated content spam
28:30 – Are AI Overviews killing publisher traffic?
31:20 – HubSpot vs NerdWallet: real AI traffic case study
34:45 – Using AI visibility as brand billboards, not click drivers
37:30 – Schema, structured data, and helping AI understand content
40:15 – How agencies should educate teams and clients on AI
43:00 – Best newsletters, podcasts & learning resources for SEOs
46:30 – Final advice for brands navigating AI search in 2025
48:45 – Closing thoughts & episode wrap-up
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