The local three pack may not exist by the end of the year. AI Overviews are already synthesizing two results and skipping it entirely.
In this episode of SEO On-Air, host Koa Kauwe sits down with Natalie Hoben of Forthea in Houston, who runs local SEO campaigns in one of the most competitive markets in the country.
The panel explores what changed in the last year. Natalie says local looked resistant to AI until roughly twelve months ago, when AI Overviews started appearing on hyper local searches and synthesizing results instead of showing the three pack. Her worked example is a Houston repiping company where a hyper local FAQ strategy with structured schema drove over a 75 percent increase in conversions within a month, even as organic traffic slipped.
They also discuss the AI slop arriving from other agencies with fabricated facts on service area pages, why Google can quietly lower your ranking for the hours you are closed, the review updates Google shipped this year, where AI content drifted badly enough that her team pulled back, how local link building actually works, and the one question a client should ask any agency.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
– Why AI Overviews are starting to replace the local three pack
– The FAQ strategy that lifted conversions 75 percent in a month
– Why being closed can lower your local ranking
– What the recent Google review updates actually changed
– Why review velocity now matters as much as review count
– Where AI content drifts and why it falls apart at scale
– What to track now beyond rankings and organic traffic
– Why brand sentiment belongs in your reporting
– Why local market knowledge cannot be replaced by a prompt
– The one question that filters checklist agencies
Whether you’re a local business owner, agency marketer, multi location brand, or watching your map pack visibility slide, this episode provides actionable insights into optimizing for AI local results, building reviews properly, and judging whether your agency sells results or checklists.
Because ranking locally won’t mean sitting in the map pack much longer.
It will mean being the answer the map pack used to point to.
⏱️ Chapters
00:00 Introduction to SEO On-Air & Meet Natalie Hoben
02:47 What the AI Slop Economy Looks Like in Local
04:53 Why Clients Arrive With Trust Issues From Past Agencies
06:56 Do AI Phone Systems Cost You the Personal Touch?
07:49 Why Being Closed Can Lower Your Local Ranking
12:07 What Google’s Review Updates Actually Changed
13:02 Why AI Overviews Are Taking Over the Map Pack
15:15 How Local Search Queries Became Conversations
18:40 The FAQ Strategy That Lifted Conversions 75 Percent
20:19 Tracking Citations, Mentions & Brand Sentiment
24:44 Where AI Content Drifted & They Pulled Back
28:00 The One Question That Filters Checklist Agencies